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Top Dozen Worst Clients

20/4/2023

 
​Red & Black Music has had its fair share of tricky clients over the years. Actually, it is quite compelling to sit back and reflect on some of these experiences and we can thank our lucky stars we made it through. Here is a ranking of the absolute worst.
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​12. MP (2015)

Request for "gutsy" music. The audience abandoned the artist mid-performance and expected the artist to follow them out into the garden when he was performing with a wired amp. MP was critical that the artist did not play any of the "gutsy" music she requested. Clearly, the interpretation of "gutsy" did not quite hit the mark.
From: MP
Subject: Re: Event Confirmation 15th May 2015
Date: 29 April 2016 at 15:35:26 BST
To: Claire Maillot
Hi Claire,
To be fair I was busy on that day sorting out the flowers and decorations.
However I was not impressed, the music played was not what I'd been expecting, I also felt Rory could have used a bit more initiative with regards making sure people could hear him, he seemed to be playing to himself a lot of the time, so I was disappointed.
Having said all that, guests that did hear him seemed to enjoy it.
HE was well presented, on time and very pleasant.
Yours MP.

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11. OP (2022)

​On the night, OP continually moved the goal posts, changing the running order, timings and even complaining about the band being too loud. The band were not supplied with a proper dressing room or rider, resulting in lots of musician complaints. In the end, the band ganged up on OP and almost pushed him into a corner. It was an incredibly stressful evening.
From: Rory Duffy
Subject: Re: Thanks for confirming your MSH booking on Thursday 31 March, 2022
Date: 1 April 2022 at 14:05:14 BST
To: BM
Hi BM,
I hope you are enjoying your day.
Sorry for the slightly delayed report-back. Thank you for the booking; we enjoyed the gig very much. The clients loved it, and so did the guests and the staff. OP said he would like to book us again, so watch this space! However, I just wanted to bring a couple of things to your attention. There were a few fluctuations with the timings, which we corrected on the night. We were contracted 17:00-21:30, with the band performances due to take place between 19:15-21:30. The performances were brought forward to 18:55-20:45. It was fine for us; we understand that this is often the changeable nature of corporate events with multiple moving parts. I also re-clarify the order of ceremonies in the Show Advance (that way, everyone knows beforehand what to expect). However, due to the room layout and the speeches occurring after the band’s performance, we could not break down immediately following the performance without interrupting the proceedings. It resulted in an unforeseen post-performance curfew approx 20:45-21:45. Usually, I would charge for this under the “Late” component of the quote (see attached PDF, this would fall under “Trail Time” 60 Minutes Inactive @10%). Since nothing was agreed in advance (the curfew was unexpected), I would not charge for this but just wanted to flag that this happened. Fortunately, the clients supplied us with pizzas and drinks and were generally really lovely, so all was well. So, whilst I have no complaints at all about the way we were treated by the client, it highlighted a minor oversight that might be worth bearing in mind in future. Nothing you need to act upon or pass on to OP, but I thought that it might be wise to notify you. I am sure that this happens with other bands, too!
OP said that he would be happy to provide us with feedback. It was a bonus that everyone in the lineup was a fluent Spanish speaker (all native except for 2 of us). I believe that this helped with the communication and smooth running of the event!
Please find attached and below invoice for Diáspora on 31/03/2022
Looking forward to hearing from you and have a great weekend, too!
Thanks,
Rory
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10. Emma (2014)

The clients caused issues in the organisation of the event due to their continual insistence on doing business verbally over the phone. Although the performance was succesful, she was critical of the band's management and described it as "horrific".
From: Claire Maillot
Subject: Re: Testimonial - 30/08/2014 - Diáspora
Date: 11 July 2016 at 10:00:00 BST
To: Emma
Cc: Arthur

Hi Emma,
It's been a bit chaotic this month, I do apologise for the delay in sending you a reply.
I have looked into this as comprehensively as possible. I can see that my predecessor Jo [Cc’d], who I have contacted, sent you the correct information in a timely manner but that there was some frustration over the lack of phone contact. While I do appreciate that this is more intimate and personal, I agree with Jo that information relayed verbally is less accurate, likely to be lost in transit and/or appropriated to the situation at the cost of precision, which can lead to misunderstandings and potential problems further down the line. We have also experienced a surge of interest in our productions and due to the time/resources restrictions, it is not always possible to reach the phone before the point of contract, especially when many inconclusive enquiries we won’t hear anything about. This is why we prefer to initially communicate with our clients in writing.
I understand that this might potentially hinder the team in future, but the company has opted for this policy in favour of taking less bookings and delivering a more thorough and reliable service. Please let me highlight that this is in the best interests of the client, because it allows us to fully account for what was requested/agreed previously and respond appropriately.
I’m sorry to hear that this has tarnished your opinion of the band. Nevertheless, I’m happy to hear that you were satisfied with the end-result and I do hope that this experience doesn’t deter you from working with bands/musicians in the future. I do also appreciate you taking the time to provide us with this feedback, which is much appreciated and valued.
In the spirit of redemption, I would like to offer you 2 complimentary tickets to see Diáspora + Fiesta Latina at The Jazz Café on 31st July. I have included you in an e-mail shot with details. Please let me know if you would like tickets.
Best Regards,
Claire Maillot

On 20 Jun 2016, at 09:44, Emma wrote:
Hi Claire,
Arthur and I have not responded to your repeated requests for a testimonial.
The band itself did really well on the night. However the stress caused by the process of booking and confirming the band and getting any information out of anyone was probably one of the most stressful parts of organising the wedding. It seemed impossible to actually speak to anyone to have a chat about the band. It was horrific. It’s a shame because it is the management of the booking which lets down the band.
Regards
Emma

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9. Zara D (2018)

There were two issues with this engagement. The first issue was the unsubstantiated client critique regarding the music on the night. The client booked a jazz band and expected a function band. She continually interrupted the band telling them that they were not "upbeat" enough and requesting music that people could dance to. The second issue was that the final payment was made to the agency and this was not picked up until three months later.
From: Production
Subject: Fwd: Rory - 01/06/2018
Date: 2 June 2018 at 22:27:04 BST
To: Claire Maillot
Hi Claire
Last night was hard work but we managed it. The problem was she booked a jazz quartet but was expecting a flashy function/covers band. There seemed to be a disparity between her and the guests over what was required of us. The guests wanted to jive (French jazz theme!) but whenever we played uptempo swing she said it wasn't 'upbeat' enough. She didn't seem to understand what jazz was or have the language tools at her disposal; just kept interrupting us mid-flow, reiterating the word 'upbeat' music people could dance to. As you can see, nothing was said about this in advance so we were put on the spot. We explained this to her, and adapted accordingly as best we could. We did get people up dancing though.
Nevertheless she was very lovely and kind and understanding, and she was totally appreciative at the end so all was well. But I just thought I should mention it in case she says anything to W. Also she looked after the band exceptionally well, which was much appreciated.
Regarding MR's feedback, I haven't seen the post and it's probably not a major issue but I mentioned to MR about the possibility of working out a template to prevent such mishap from occurring in future.
I hope all is good,
Cheers
Rory

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8. KF (2019)

When the performance was delayed due to unforeseen circumstances, KF's father (who was drunk) physically threatened the artist. The artist relayed this information to the agency. Unfortunately, the clients refused to pay, despite the artist travelling from London to Wiltshire. Fortunately, the travel expenses were covered, but the clients also misrepresented rider-related that the artist had said during the course of the event, framing the artist in a negative light to the agency - using this, as a justification for not paying.
The sax player before hand seemed brilliant letting me know that he was getting the train and what time it arrived so this put my mind at rest and felt really chilled going in to it! When Rory arrived became and introduced him self to me and let me know the plan. So at this point I was really happy and excited as I know this was going to make my husbands night!

I found out he moaned about the food to my guest as I didn’t have food to suit his dietary needs (he wasn’t one of my guests and none of the guests were vegan so why would I cater for this).

The band I had playing finished at 9:30 when Rory was meant to start but we sat with no music until 10pm because Rory didn’t bring the correct equipment. My DJ tried to help overcome these problems but Rory seemed uninterested. By 10:30 I asked Rory to leave as it was upsetting me.
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7. RM (2021)

RM complained about the dress code, even going to such calculated and cold-blooded lengths as filming the artist without consent during the performance and sending in the footage to the agency. He also alleged that the artist departed five minutes before the end of the performance. He threatened to pursue a refund and accused us of lying. Fortunately, we had learned from the lessons of Zara K and obtained settlement the day before, otherwise it would have been very difficult obtaining payment afterwards.
From: RM
Subject: Complaint - Rory The Saxophonist - 03/09/2021
Date: 6 September 2021 at 08:15:17 BST
To: Rory Duffy, CO
I have camera and video footage that will be coming my way in the next 2/3 days which shows the attire was very different.
My watch was not out of sync either, the bride walked down the aisle at exactly 3pm and there was no music playing for the final 5 mins.
That's fine if they don't want to be involved, there's always reviews to get their attention.
Goodbye
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6. DM (2013)

Not only did Diáspora supply a heavily discounted performance, but also made an additional journey down to Surrey ahead of the performance to discuss the client's needs in person. On the day, none of the timings reflected what was agreed beforehand. DM positioned the clients far away from the seven-piece band, such that the band were effectively performing to no-one. Afterwards, DM ghosted the band's attempts at obtaining feedback for three years, but finally came out of the woodwork and commented "disappointed with the performance you gave on the day, as we felt whilst it was professional and competent, it completely failed to ignite any passion in the audience." He was offered discounted tickets to the band's performance at Jazz Café but no further reply was received from him. The clients failed to realise what a bargain they secured, and should have been charged much more. The event was a whole-day operation and it was an ambitious venue to reach, with little to no phone signal, involving a convoy of about three or four cars and the purchase of a brand new PA system.
From: M
Subject: Re: Testimonial - 01/09/2013 - Diáspora
Date: 13 October 2016 at 09:25:39 BST
To: Claire Maillot
Cc: LM

Dear Claire,

we receive an email every month from you, they appear to be written by hand as opposed to an electronic repeat send and thus i am surprised that you keep writing.

The event that you are asking for feedback on was over 3 years ago now.

firstly how can this feed back now be relevant , why wouldn’t you just assume that you are not going to receive any, as opposed to keep re sending emails?

secondly, the lack of response might suggest that we were not willing to offer any feedback, so again why keep sending emails.

thirdly, whilst you might deem negative feedback as an effective tool to shape future performances , its awkward to write as one wants to be sensitive in the response.

both Linda and i were disappointed with the performance you gave on the day, as we felt whilst it was professional and competent, it completely failed to ignite any passion in the audience and thus didn’t really add to the atmosphere.

please do not send any further emails to us
regards
DM

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5. AO (2016)

The wedding timings ran behind. The bride refused to communicate with the artist on the day. The artist was not put in touch with any event coordinator. The artist was left to their own devices, to languish, all the time sensing that the wedding was not running as planned yet powerless to do anything about it. The artist remembers running around madly trying to ask people what was going on and why they would not allow the performance to go ahead. Even the photographer seemed equally confused. Afterwards, the bride accused the artist of not sticking to the contract and said "do your job". She expected the artist to stay longer than contracted, but no one actually made this request explicit. She held the artist responsible for her first dance request not being performed on time. This client was a classical example of poor on-the-day communication.
​From: Rory Duffy
Subject: Re: Testimonial - Rory The Saxophonist - 27/08/2016
Date: 26 May 2017 at 15:36:21 BST
To: AO
Cc: Claire Maillot

Hi AO
Apologies for the delay.

It must be recognised no-one actually asked me if I was able to stay for longer. I would have happily negotiated to stay longer had I been asked, but it cannot be assumed that I would stay longer (as a matter of fact, my contract ended at 18:00, and I waited until 18:30 before leaving). I even asked several people whether I was required to stay longer or not but no one could give me an answer.

that was not what the contract said, you should have done your job that you got paid for, not blame other people for it, after all you were not the only vendor there that had set rules on what to do, if everyone waited for the Cordinator to guide them, they won't do anything on that day.

I understand your point about ‘doing my job that I got paid for’ — which I completely agree with. Had the timings run exactly as below then that’s exactly what I'd have done. However, since the timings took the job beyond the parameters stipulated by my contract (see below: First dance -5pm, 18:00 - Depart), it was no longer my ‘job’ and it became something else entirely. In these circumstances, communication is required; one cannot just assume one will stay an extra hour, paid or not, without asking.

Set Timings
What are the set timings?
Arrival of the bride 12pm
Cocktail hour -3pm -4pm
First dance -5pm 

Schedule:
10:00 - Arrive
10:00 - Setup
10:00 - Soundcheck
10:00 - Curfew
12:00 - Start
18:00 - End
18:00 - Breakdown
18:00 - Depart

The reason I lingered behind was to see that things ran smoothly without me for the first dance, and to show that I was not running off (even if I was made late for my evening appointment), to give people one last opportunity to ask me to stay behind if needed. Still, then, nobody approached me or asked me to stay. I told both DJ and coordinator that the timings had run behind and offered to stay if required, but the coordinator just dismissed me.

Next time you hire a musician, band, photographer or any other event supplier, I’d advise you to communicate with them on the day. Or, if it’s your wedding day and you can’t communicate in person yourself, to delegate that communication to someone else such as a coordinator, and ensure that the coordinator makes contact with your suppliers upon arrival so that they know who to contact. I appreciate that things don’t always run as planned but in these situations the communication has to happen to prevent any problems and in this case, it didn’t.

To clarify: I would have been happy to negotiate staying beyond the agreed contract end time had I been asked, but I wasn’t asked.

Thanks
Rory

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4. AF (2016)

Expected an upbeat performance with the sort of ferocity one might expect from a full band, from a duo. Placed the duo at the opposite end of the building to the guests and claimed that the duo did not interact with the audience. Even went to the length of claiming that some of the guests were laughing at the duo as they departed. There were other issues. Such as expecting the duo to operate wirelessly without having specified this at the point of contract / show advance. Or booking a Latin duo to play Spanish music. AF was not there on the night but seemed to be spying on the duo via CCTV. Not satisfied with leaving negative feedback with the band manager, AF went above and relayed this negative feedback to the agent, endangering the band's reputation. This client is a classic case in compensation culture and expecting more than was actually paid for.
From: Claire Maillot
Subject: Re: Feedback
Date: 21 October 2016 at 14:00:00 BST
To: AF
Cc: SM, Production, Rory Duffy

Hello AF, MF,
Thank you very much for keeping in touch.
It’s true that the artistic requirements to the night were not duly accessed/understood [see attached show advance and below correspondence].
So in this case, yes, we don't have much recourse.
I’d advise in future to have the show advance (i.e., the finer details) emailed to the musicians and for them to need to electronically/formally acknowledge them in order for them to be booked in. If you wish, we can have a look at that document and see what recourses are put in place for finer details such as this.
Also, it may be of interest to add a sentence to the “show advance" document specifying to please disclose these artistic requests to any retainers musicians may have in order to avoid confusion. And a sentence to the first enquiry email asking for any details of requests elsewhere (that way we know what might be missed later).
As for the matter of Friday’s performance: Really unhappy to know that the theme of the night wasn’t seen to in advance; and obviously relieved that the musicians at least tried to do their best and adapt accordingly to the circumstances. I was not there on the night, and therefore cannot provide an informed account.
There should be a link to the promo material/s which - I hope - is readily available on the Royal Oak/relevant website. Please, in addition to sending me this promo material (and its location where the musicians should have found it), also let me know (for re-drafting) any other bits of information about the event so I can re-draft more adequately, and so we can look into ways of avoiding this mis-hap of re-occurring.
Many thanks,
and hope to hear from you soon,
Claire Maillot

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3. Guy Swindell / Jason @ Book Live (2014) 🥉

After transporting a full PA system via taxis / trains to Leeds Football Club and back to London, booking some of the North West's top-class Latin musicians and even staying overnight in a hostel. The engagement itself was long, around six hours, with several performances interspersed with complimentary DJ sets. On the day, although the clients paid no attention to the music, Guy Swindell (the lead client) was very praising. Months down the line, Jo uncovered some unsubstantiated client critique that failed to correlate with the positive feedback received on the day. On sharing this with the agent, Jason @ Book Live, in a valiant effort to resolve the unaccounted for issues, Jason struck the band from his books without even notifying us! When questioned, Jason came up with an alternative wording suggesting that Guy had provided separate feedback to him and not to the band. However, when Jo questioned the integrity of this feedback, Jason refused to provide any further information; instead accusing the band of behaving impersonally.
On 1 Dec 2015, at 09:56, Jason @ Book Live wrote:
Jo
I appreciate you are focussing on a remedy for this but it is not really of interest to us. Our experience of R&B music has been a completely impersonal one, non user-friendly and the below proves this further. The Entertainment business is about making people happy and being approachable, generous and flexible. As you know, we run an agency, too. If we get it wrong we say sorry to the client. We haven't the time to assist you with your 'implementations'. My suggestion would be to try and be a bit more people friendly.
We wish you the best with your business but please don't feel the need to keep writing to me.
Jason
On 30 Nov 2015, at 12:13, Jason @ Book Live wrote:
Jo
I was trying to be polite by not answering. You did an event for us in May 2014. The client was extremely disappointed with the band. His words were that the musicians who turned up on the day were unhelpful, not very good and nothing like the music that was advertised. We found it difficult dealing with you - you would send a quote and then advise you needed a few days to confirm if you had the musicians. It appears you use a network of musicians which can lead to difficulties - as proved by the previous feedback. We weren't sure who we were booking either. This makes representing your bands frustrating.
Hope this helps
J
On 10 Sep 2014, at 13:15, Guy Swindell wrote:
Jo,
I thought their music was average and their attitude was less than helpful.
Take me off your mailing list and cease contacting me or any of my colleagues immediately.
Guy Swindell
Marketing and PR Manager
A.G. Parfett & Sons Ltd

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2. MM (2021) 🥈

MM booked Diáspora to perform for a law firm event. He used the phone as a means to bully, intimidate, and manipulate: both with the initial cancellation request and with the unnecessary phone call disguised as "Show Advancing". The Musicians' Union advised "go with 100% cancellation fee as an initial position" and subsequently failed to provide any useful advice on interacting with this cold, calculating individual. On the day, the client attempted to cancel a third time while the band were on our way to the venue. Before and during the event, he repeatedly implied that the bandleader was acting careless and reckless for adhering to the contract, while ignoring the fact that the government had not prohibited office parties. On the night, he was not present and all correspondence was carried out remotely via exchange of e-mails from Colombia. He tricked the band into suggestively "forfeiting" its contract, exploiting the bandleader's autism / communication difficulties to sabotage our fulfilment of the contract. Finally, he threatened legal action. Ultimately, he used his position as treasurer to bully and intimidate the band into backing down when we refused to cancel without charging a cancellation fee.

The Musicians' Union issued a directive to stop sending e-mails unless there was a real problem and subsequently did nothing despite membership fees paid. As a result of this escapade, we quit the Musicians' Union a year later.

On the night, it was declared that this was the worst client. In hindsight, we withdrew this superlative. While it was certainly the worst Diáspora client, the repercussions were short-lived: the client did not pursue legal action and nothing happened after the fateful night. Hence, on the basis of lasting repercussions (in the subsequent case of three months), the trophy for the worst client remains with Zara K.
From: MM
Date: 16 December 2021 at 21:02:16 GMT
To: Red Black Music
Cc: PW
Subject: Re: Booking on 16/12/21 with Latin Explosion

Rory, I understand from the building security team that your band left the premises an hour ago. Why is that? Did they think they were wasting their time? I thought that you were a group who stuck completely to their contracts, yet you have left before the hour of 21:30 that was agreed in your contract as your end time, a contract you have insisted be upheld. How do you intend to compensate V for this? We paid a sizeable sum of money for your talents and time. Your talents were not realised yet your time you have chosen to not give, despite your contractual obligation. You will be hearing from our lawyers in this regard and will be liable for all costs incurred. 

​Please explain your actions.
​MM

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1. Zara K (2018) 🥇

The infamous Jewish wedding. Not only did the band prepare accordingly with song requests that were not charged for, rehearsals, specialist Klezma lessons and expensive equipment, but they were asked to stay for two hours longer than agreed, for no extra money. The groom lied to W Entertainment about the bandleader "throwing down the sax" and "storming out" on four occasions, endangered the bandleader's reputation with both agency and musicians and tried to use his lies as a justification for not paying. The clients took three months to pay (during which we had already paid the musicians, leaving us hundreds of pounds out of pocket, despite the weeks of preparation) and only with Musicians' Union intervention. The gig impacted knock-on effects for other clients and relationships and fundamentally changed the way in which Red & Black Music does business, i.e., taking down payments for all Employment Agency clients going forward. In all possible ways, these clients were rotten eggs. Rude, manipulative, devious, and untrustworthy. Psychological abuse tactics involved triangulation (with the involvement of the bride's father, RK), gaslighting and other forms of manipulation (e.g., painting the bandleader out to be incapacitated).
From: AT
Subject: RE: W Entertainment Booking - Song Requests 06/05/2018
Date: 8 May 2018 at 15:06:35 BST
To: "'Claire'"
Hi Claire,
I hope that you’re well. I have just had Mike on the phone, partner of Zara who had Rory & His Jazz Band booked in 06/05/2018.
The client said that Rory became quite temperamental on 4 occasions and threw his sax down at one point.
They also mentioned that he forgot to put the iPod on during dinner.
The client said the performance was lacking and they didn’t read the room too well. He did say that the band were good but Rory could not keep it together and wasn’t in control.
The client said they are not happy with paying full for what he got. The level of performance and professional wasn't enough for them.
Can you let me know what went on from your side and if there is movement in the act fee to keep the peace?
Kind regards,
AT

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